15 - Socrates without Plato: the Accounts of Aristophanes and Xenophon

In the first of several episodes on Socrates, Peter discusses his portrayals in "The Clouds" of Aristophanes and in the works of the historian Xenophon.

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Further Reading: 

S. Ahbel-Rappe and R. Kamtekar (eds.), A Companion to Socrates (Oxford: Blackwell, 2005).

D.R. Morrison, Bibliography of Editions, Translations and Commentary on Xenophon’s Socratic Writings, 1600-Present (Pittsburgh: 1988).

• W. Prior (ed.), Socrates: Critical Assessments of Leading Philosophers, 4 vols (London: 1996).

• D.K. O’Connor, “Socrates and Political Ambition: The Dangerous Game” in Proceedings of the Boston Area Colloquium in Ancient Philosophy 14 (1998), 31-52.

• M. Trapp, Socrates from Antiquity to the Enlightenment (Aldershot: 2007).

• P.A. Vander Waerdt (ed.), The Socratic Movement (Ithaca: 1994).

• Xenophon, Conversations of Socrates, trans. H. Treddenick and R. Waterfield (London: 1990).

Aristophanes, "The Clouds": online text

Stanford Encylopedia: Socrates

Renee Vaughn's picture

artistic sophistry

Fascinating to learn that the snobbery towards people who work for money started so long ago.

The question of whether or not art is more pure if done for virtue rather than commerce is a great way to liven up a really dull cocktail party.

So Socrates is responsible for para-artist-ism! It would be wonderful to go back and see how the western world would have evolved without Socratic virtue.

Thanks for giving me the info I needed for a guest blog on writing and the internet! I might have to start sending you royalties if I start making money of my writing. :)